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Some older iron... Stationary Tools

General:

I grew up in a shop - almost literally. I can't tell you how many hours of my childhood and adolescence were spent running any one of a variety of woodworking (and other) tools in pursuit of some grandiose plans of utterly blowing away all with my unquestionably masterful and artful talents. Most often, they were utter failures, but every once in a while I would surprise myself. Anyway, none of the tools were what you would call "high end" - though almost all were "sufficient". Dad never spent a great deal of money on tools - but who could, with seven kids?

I now have possession of a good many of those tools I learned on. They are in original, mostly untouched condition. There are three stationary power tools I have of his; first is an old Craftsman jointer, a model 103.23900 6" jointer manufactured by the King-Seeley Manufacturing company:

Jointer

While it has a shorter bed than my Delta jointer, I like this one better - it's so very solid. Its one main downfall is the lack of an adjustable outfeed table. I'm still in a quandary as to which jointer to keep, but my instincts tell me it will be this one. The vintage of this machine is probably around 1963 or so, as it was purchased at the same time as his table saw:

Table Saw

A model 34-425 Rockwell 10" bench saw. This one is mostly original, sans the motor... not long after I got it the motor gave up the ghost, so I replaced it with a 1-1/2 hp Leeson motor. I've been using this saw a lot lately. It's a better saw, in my opinion, than my Jet contractor's saw by a good margin. It has more power, and is far more solidly built. And - it's not buried in my old shop in an inaccessible corner (which is why I've been using it). The one thing it is lacking is a decent fence... I'm thinking I'm going to build one of those bench saw / router stations you see so often in woodworking magazines for it and install a decent fence on the thing. Once that is done, I'd say it's almost a given that the Jet will be going down the road.

The third is probably the cream of the crop, a DeWalt GWI 10" Radial Arm Saw:

DeWalt GWI

This was purchase sometime in the mid-1950's when a lot of dad's work as a contractor was in building potato warehouses. Warehouses of that time were built with traditional rafters, and this saw was purchased to make building those rafters easier. I think the only reason I got it was my contractor brother thought that the motor on it wasn't good anymore... it wouldn't cut worth a damn if he tried it. I happen to know two things about it - first that dad had the motor rewound and completely rebuilt only a few years ago so the motor was fine. Second was he had a VERY dull blade in the thing. I put in a new, thin-kerf 10" carbide blade in it and the first task it had was cutting the 6x6 knee braces for the shop. Handled them like a champ.

When I get some time, I'm going to have to tear these old machines down and give them some proper maintenance - something they probably have never actually had.

In the meantime - it's neat to work with these old machines again...

Comments

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I have a King-Seeley Jointer that has a model number of 103.23340 which I have found out was made in 1953. Its blades are 4 and 3/8 inches wide.

It doesn't have a switch on the side like I've seen on other models. It's all cast iron and quite heavy. Would you or anyone you know of have any idea what it might be worth? It works great and hums along like a jointer should. I want to sell it, but I'm afraid I'm not asking what it's really worth...

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Can't say I'm an expert - but I would guess it's worth somewhere between $50 and $200 depending on condition.  A 4" is pretty small, most woodworkers are looking for a 6" or wider - though a picture framer might like a smaller jointer like yours...    On ebay there are two of that model that are for sale or have sold recently for $89 and $129 each that appear to be in pretty fair shape.

These old jointers just don't go for too much - I doubt very much I could get $250 for my 6" jointer in it's current condition...

Leif

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I have the same King-Seely jointer, one my Dad used.  I am trying to restore it and need several parts.  I would be glad to discuss an offer if you still have it.  Thanks, Gerald Summerlin 336-427-0964

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I have recently come across a king seeley jointer and i was wondering how to adjuct the blade height, because when i run a board threw it, it get cought on the outfied table. Please Help 

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I have a Seeley Planer/joiner 6 " model # 103-23900. It is in excellent shape however I am missing the swinging blade gard and key for guard blade. The parts are discontinured if anybody has one they want to part with or can steer me in the right direction that would be nice. 252-338-3427 or gkochcithofec@yahoo.com.

Thanks